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Old 10-07-2017, 10:44 AM
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Angry Sent proofs once already, worried about personal data theft

Not really sure if this is the right area to post this but...away we go.

Rewind 4 months ago, we submitted our amended 2015 return to claim my son who was born that year. We never received his SS card as per the norm for his birth, my MIL died 2 weeks after his birth so suffice it to say our minds weren't on getting that "awesome" tax break. So it wasn't until 4 months ago we got his SSN/card and decided to file the amended return.

Two weeks after we submitted the amended return they sent a request for more info (including our original return back in the mail) They needed information to support line 14. That is all it said. AFter doing some googling it looked like a birth certificate and medical records would suffice. We spent our last $20 getting a copy of his birth certificate and medical records. We mailed that in the next day.

We just checked the IRS site and found that they're returning it again for "need of more information"


I'm incredibly frustrated because short of sending my son through the mail I'm not sure what else I can do to prove he exists and lived with us at the time (all medical records show the same address as the year filed) He's 2 so he doesn't get any mail and he doesn't attend school yet.


I'm concerned that 20 years from now I'll find out that someone who worked for the IRS decided to steal his data and open accounts with it.

I know I go from 0-60 real quick but I'm frustrated with this whole cluster @#$% and am curious as to what else there is that could even be sent? They already got the only copy of his birth certificate I had, his medical records, and his SSN. What else is there they could want.

Also, neither here nor there, I find it a little scammy that documents you need to buy to prove your birth or anyone else's for the Government, are provided by the government at an exorbitant cost, only to send it back to the government, then to have to buy another copy from the government. (sorry my IRS ranting, makes me feel better to have typed it out)

TLDR: What other proofs would they need aside from Birth Certificate and Medical records to prove my 2 year old son is my 2 year old son and living with my husband and myself full time at the year of filing.



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Old 10-08-2017, 12:24 AM
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Rewind 4 months ago, we submitted our amended 2015 return to claim my son who was born that year. We never received his SS card as per the norm for his birth, my MIL died 2 weeks after his birth so suffice it to say our minds weren't on getting that "awesome" tax break. So it wasn't until 4 months ago we got his SSN/card and decided to file the amended return. ===>just for reference, you can request a Social Security card for your newborn at the hospital at the same time you apply for a birth certificate. Another tax break parents can claim is the child tax credit. Provided that your income is below $110kfor married couples filing jointly, $75k for a single head of household, or $55k for a married person filing separately, you can claim a child tax credit of $1k per child in 2017 and 2016. Because it is a credit, and not a deduction, the child tax credit gives you $1k back in your pocket for every child by reducing your tax liability dollar-for-dollar. If you can't claim the full child tax credit because your tax liability is less than the $1k credit, you may be able to claim the additional child tax credit in 2016. You must have at least $3k in income to claim the credit which allows you to receive a tax refund of the unused portion of your child tax credit.

Two weeks after we submitted the amended return they sent a request for more info (including our original return back in the mail) They needed information to support line 14. That is all it said. AFter doing some googling it looked like a birth certificate and medical records would suffice. We spent our last $20 getting a copy of his birth certificate and medical records. We mailed that in the next day. ====>Agreed as mentioned previously; To get these child-related benefits, your child must have a Social Security number. You should apply for one as soon as possible following the birth. It normally takes about two weeks to issue a number. If you don?t have a number by the tax filing due date, you can file Form 1040XYou cannot claim a stillborn baby. Whether or not you can claim a newborn baby on your 2015 tax return depends on the baby?s date and time of birth. If the new arrival is born at 11:59 p.m. on Dec 31, you can claim her as a dependent for the 2015 calendar year. But, if she arrives a minute later, you?ll have to wait until next year to claim the infant on your 2016 tax return.

We just checked the IRS site and found that they're returning it again for "need of more information"I'm incredibly frustrated because short of sending my son through the mail I'm not sure what else I can do to prove he exists and lived with us at the time (all medical records show the same address as the year filed) He's 2 so he doesn't get any mail and he doesn't attend school yet.====>.as said, you can request a Social Security card for your newborn at the hospital at the same time you apply for a birth certificate. If you don't, it can be a real hassle. You'll need to file a Form SS-5 with the Social Security Administration, and provide proof of the child's age, identity and U.S. citizenship


I'm concerned that 20 years from now I'll find out that someone who worked for the IRS decided to steal his data and open accounts with it.

I know I go from 0-60 real quick but I'm frustrated with this whole cluster @#$% and am curious as to what else there is that could even be sent? They already got the only copy of his birth certificate I had, his medical records, and his SSN. What else is there they could want.

Also, neither here nor there, I find it a little scammy that documents you need to buy to prove your birth or anyone else's for the Government, are provided by the government at an exorbitant cost, only to send it back to the government, then to have to buy another copy from the government. (sorry my IRS ranting, makes me feel better to have typed it out)

TLDR: What other proofs would they need aside from Birth Certificate and Medical records to prove my 2 year old son is my 2 year old son and living with my husband and myself full time at the year of filing.=======>> School records demonstrate that you are the responsible caregiver for the child, at least in the eyes of the school, and help to prove that he lived with you. School records also help to prove age in case you don't have a birth certificate on hand. If your child is over 18 and attending high school or college, school records support your claiming her as a dependent, so long as she doesn't claim herself on a tax return of her own.A number of courtroom documents can prove that a child is yours to claim on your tax return. Court orders regarding custody demonstrate which parent has the child for the bulk of the year; this is the IRS test for who may take her deduction and other dependent credits like the Earned Income Tax Credit and childcare. Adoptions and pending adoptions are documented with legal filings and court orders. In the case of an adult child who is permanently and totally disabled, court documents detail your rights and responsibilities as a legal guardian.
The IRS will accept letters on official letterhead from schools, medical providers, social service agencies, or places of worship that show the name of the child's parent or guardian, the child's address and the dates the child lived with you. Others from whom affidavits can be accepted for proof on the earned income credit form are landlords, utility companies, law enforcement officers and childcare providers.



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